Weekly /r/Games Discussion - Meta Monday: Handling "Announcements of Annoucements" + Rule Verbiage Updates

Welcome our second Meta Monday thread! We wanted to improve communication between the moderator team and the users of /r/games in an effort to improve the subreddit as a whole. To that end, we've established the Meta Monday threads. We will endeavor to run these Meta Monday threads at least once a month to solicit feedback about an aspect of /r/games that we have concerns about. We may utilize this feedback in making changes that will hopefully improve the subreddit in the long run.Announcements of AnnouncementsOver time we have seen feedback regarding submissions that are "announcements of announcements". Here are a few examples:Danganronpa creator Kazutaka Kodaka to announce new title on December 9Toydea to announce new RPG and eSports titles for PS4, Switch, PC, and smartphones at TGS 2019Atlus USA to Make Persona 5 Royal Related Announcement on Tuesday December 3, 2019The feedback we often see for this kinds of submissions is that they aren't news or aren't providing any worthwhile discussion. What are your thoughts on announcements of announcements? Do you find value in submissions like these? Let us know!Rule UpdatesNothing major to announce here actually. We've just updated some of the verbiage of our rules to be more clear on what they cover.3.1 No off-topic content or comments - Submissions should be directly related to games or the gaming industry. Top level comments must be on topic. Lower level comments should be reasonably related to the discussion. The following topics fall under this category and are better suited on other subreddits:Film or television adaptions of gamesVideo game retail items such as apparel, toys, and collectibles which have no interaction or integration with a gameIndividual e-sports player or game streamer newsCareer adviceNews regarding game concertsPlease note that the above list is NOT comprehensive and other content may be considered off-topic and will be removed at mod discretion.This rule has been updated to include a list of some of the content we consider to be off-topic. We have received a lot of feedback about providing a list of off-topic subjects for better submission guidance so we have included a list of some of the higher volume topics we remove. This list is not comprehensive, and we may add items to it over time for additional clarity. To be clear - we are not changing what we consider to be off topic, we are just making some of those items more visible now.6.8 No links to individual sales, only sales events or free game events - Links directly to a store page or announcement regarding an individual game going on sale (e.g. game is 30% off) are not allowed. However, links to sale event announcements (e.g. Steam Holiday sales, Humble Bundles, flash sales, etc.) are permitted, as are links to free game events (e.g. Free weekends, Games With Gold, PS Plus Free Games, etc). Free game events are considered to be instances where games which are normally sold are either temporarily free or transitioned to permanently free. One submission is permitted for a pre-announcement of a sales/free game event as well as a submission notifying that the event has started. Submissions regarding individually discounted games are more appropriate in subs such as /r/GameDeals.The updates to Rule 6.8 are mostly a facelift - the spirit of the rule has always been to prevent flooding of the subreddit with spam about discounts for games which come and go on an hourly basis. In the previous wording we called out exceptions to this rule which were sales events, Humble Bundles free games, or free weekends for games. We updated this rule to clarify that any free game events are permitted in the subreddit and we provided additional examples which are a bit more modern. With this update we also provided a definition of what we consider to be a "free game event" as well as limitations to announcements of these events.Rule 8 - Account History Requirement - No more than 10% of your submissions across all of Reddit may be to any single site, profile, channel, or on any given topic. This is not limited to your own content: you can be in violation of the promotion rules for a site that you have no direct affiliation with. Comments usually do not factor into the 10% rule. That being said, we can take comments into account if we feel they are being used to circumvent the 10% submission restriction (such as posting a specific domain repeatedly in comments).Very slight update/correction here. Around four months ago we had a large rule overhaul covered here. In our revamp, we accidentally made Rule 8 less explicit. The rule used to state that the 10% limit took into consideration sites and topics, but in our revamp this was altered to say "single site or on any profile/channel". This wording has been corrected to reflect we still take into consideration excessive promotion of a single topic.Previous Meta MondayLast Meta Monday we discussed Player Counts & Sales Numbers Threads. Admittedly, participation was not as high as we were hoping and the opinions on these particular threads seem to be rather split on both ends of the issues so at this time we do not have any information to share regarding policy updates on these types of threads. However, we will call out how we currently deal with these:Sales threads are currently permitted as long as original sources are linked to per Rule 6.1. Exceptions for this are when sales figures are given in a format such a conference call which has not been transcribed, when the figures are not available in English, or when the figures are behind a paywall/subscription such as some of the NPD Group's data.Player count threads are currently permitted if the player count updates are notable and aren't simply updates for the sake of updates (Rule 4). Examples for notable player count submissions would be a newly released game's player count numbers are announced by a developer or a game has hit a new player count record high after a considerable time after release. Player count submissions that we would likely remove for being low-effort or duplicate submissions would be periodic player count updates for games which have stopped receiving support from developers, or multiple player count updates shortly after a game's release. via /r/Games https://ift.tt/3bzuySq